Brand | FOGATTI |
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Product Dimensions | 15"W x 15"H |
Special Feature | Low Water Pressure Start Up, Dry Combustion Protection, Overheat Protection, Water Overpressure Protection, Anti-Freezing Protection |
Color | White |
Wattage | 46 watts |
Voltage | 12 Volts (DC) |
Heat Output | 55000 British Thermal Units |
Maximum Pressure | 116 Pound per Square Inch |
Mounting Type | Built-in |
Manufacturer | FOGATTI |
Part Number | FS08B1SWD |
Item Weight | 31.4 pounds |
Item model number | FS08B1SWD |
Installation Method | Query contact:8772161818,service@fogattiliving.com |
Certification | CSA |
Special Features | Low Water Pressure Start Up, Dry Combustion Protection, Overheat Protection, Water Overpressure Protection, Anti-Freezing Protection |
Usage | RV |
Included Components | RV Tankless Water Heater, Wired Controller |
Batteries Included? | No |
Batteries Required? | No |
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FOGATTI RV Tankless Water Heater, InstaShower 8 Plus, Gen 2, with 15 x 15 inches White Door and Remote Controller, DC 12V, Best High Altitude Performance, Ideal for RVers' Everyday Use
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Brand | FOGATTI |
Product Dimensions | 15"W x 15"H |
Special Feature | Low Water Pressure Start Up, Dry Combustion Protection, Overheat Protection, Water Overpressure Protection, Anti-Freezing Protection See more |
Color | White |
Wattage | 46 watts |
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About this item
- 【Unprecedented experience】The high altitude suitability mode allows the machine to run smoothly even when driving the caravan to the high Denver plateau at 9,800 feet. Staged combustion technology, which controls the amount of flame in summer, prevents the water from getting too hot and saves the limited propane gas available for caravan travel.
- 【All RV water heaters can be replaced】The Fogatti RV water heater have a wide range of applications. The opening is 13 x 13 inches and the door is 15 x 15 inches. It can replace Suburban and Atwood's 6 gallons tank water heaters, as well as Girard and Furrion's tankless water heaters. If you previously used a 10 gallons tank water heater, it would need to be retrofitted with an 18 x 18 inches door.
- 【Incessant hot water】With 55,000 BTU of power, it can produce a maximum of 2.9 GPM of hot water. Some tank heaters can only store up to 6-10 gallons of hot water and run out of hot water in 5-8 minutes, whereas our hot water supply lasts over 40 minutes.
- 【No waiting】RV tankless water heaters are taking off. Tankless water heaters are better than tanked water heaters for continuous showering of multiple people. There is no need to waste 20-30 minutes waiting for hot water in the middle of the shower, so you can enjoy hot water at all times. It uses propane for heating, so there is no need to worry about running out of power in your caravan.
- 【Save money and trouble】Fogatti has always thought of you, with a pressure relief valve built into the product, so you don't have to buy and install it separately. And it also comes with a 15 x 15 inches door and an intelligent remote controller up to 2 meters long.
- 【Safety and reliability】The product is CSA certified and has multiple protection features such as a built-in forced exhaust fan on top, stable combustion, automatic gas shut-off for accidental flame failure and anti-freeze.
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Value for money | 4.1 | — | 4.1 | — | 4.3 |
Easy to install | 4.0 | — | 4.4 | — | 4.3 |
Temperature Control | 3.9 | — | 4.2 | — | 4.3 |
Sold By | Fogatti Water Heater | LALAHOO_Weeqee | Dune Sport | Camplux | United RV Center |
capacity | 2.9 gallons | 10 liters | 6 gallons | 2.64 gallons | 10 gallons |
power source | Liquid Propane | ac | Wind Powered | Gas Powered | Wind Powered |
mounting type | Built-in | caravans | Door Mount | Door Mount | — |
heat output | 55000 btus | 24 watts | 60 kilowatts | 65000 btus | — |
material | Alloy Steel | Flame failure protection, Over temperature protection, Pressure relief protection | — | Copper | Porcelain |
style | InstaShower 8 Plus | Indoor Installation | Automatic | Automatic | 10 Gallon |
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Fogatti is a factory based company focusing on RV appliance products. Its parent company Powtek is quality gas appliance manu-facturers , which has been in the gas appliances industry for about 20 years and has been a popular exporter since 2018 to more than 50 countries/regions all over the world.
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Does the RV water heater come with a door?
Our RV water heater comes with a 15 x 15 inches door. If you need 15*18 or 18*18 inches doors, you need to buy additional.
If the machine experiences an unexpectedly shutdown or water supply interruption, what needs to be donel?
In order to prevent hypoxia, our products have set a 40-minute timer shutdown protection. Please turn off the tap at this time, and the machine will be back to use after a while
During winter or in cold weather, what considerations should be kept in mind when using this device?
When the ambient temperature drops below 32°F (0°C) and the machine is not connected to power or gas, it's necessary to drain the water from the water heater. This precaution prevents damage to the heat exchanger.
What kind of motor does Fogatti use in the tankless water heater?
Our products choose premium components, such as the Japanese NIDEC motor, which can achieve rapid air exchange and higher energy efficiency, extended lifespan, vibration-resistant and faultless.
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ASIN | B098THLN39 |
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4.2 out of 5 stars |
Best Sellers Rank | #5,427 in Automotive (See Top 100 in Automotive) #8 in RV Water Heaters |
Date First Available | May 26, 2021 |
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Customers like the appearance and ease of installation of the water heater. For example, they mention it looks great, the electronics hooked up very easy, and the instructions are straight forward. That said, opinions are mixed on temperature control, quality, fit, value, and flow.
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Customers like the performance of the water heater. For example, they say it works amazing, flawlessly, and has been running without any issues. The hookup was straight forward, and it uses less propane. Some mention that the product is good and fullfilled all their requisites perfectly. The small temperature controller works well, and the operation is pretty foolproof.
"...We replaced our 6 gallon Atwood that finally gave it up. Seems to work great. We’ll find out more next month when we head out camping...." Read more
"...Edit: a week spent at 9500ft elevation, and the heater performed flawlessly." Read more
"...Pretty fool proof operation. Produces hot water withing 15 seconds of turning the faucet...." Read more
"...Git the parts, installed and it wasnt working still. Spoke with Fogatti again...." Read more
Customers find the installation of the water heater to be easy. They mention that the instructions are straight forward, and the setup is straightforward. They also mention that making a few pex extensions and making simple electrical connections are all that's needed.
"...We are at 7000 feet. Installation was straightforward. I wish you had a choice of doors when you order...." Read more
"Instant hot water without burning a lot of LP. Easy installation and wiring." Read more
"...1/2023 UPDATE: Shipping was slow. Very slow. But the part was very easy to replace...." Read more
"...On the plus side, the installation was pretty easy, but be sure you have the metric to US standard water fittings, despite the manual claiming that..." Read more
Customers are satisfied with the appearance of the water heater. They mention that it looks great, is well built, and is extremely nice. Some say that the door is really nice and the cover hides your caulking lines. They also mention that the wiring was very simple and the schematic drawings were clear enough. Overall, most are happy with their purchase and recommend it to others.
"...I had to get very creative to make the new one mount securely, look good, and not let rain in...." Read more
"NICE, LONG, HOT SHOWERS IN MY RV - YAAAAAAAAAAS!!!!! This unit definitely does what it's designed to...." Read more
"...Remember to order the door… expensive, but also well made and looks great in black." Read more
"...And it looks great. It looks like it came installed already. Highly recommended this water heater without a doubt...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the temperature control of the water heater. Some mention that the shower is hot in about 15 seconds with 60 degree water feeding it, and the water gets hot enough for them. They also say that it has a great heat to flow ratio and it's hot almost as soon. However, others say that the water temperature does fluctuate a bit and they have a hard time regulating it.
"...The shower is hot in about 15 seconds with 60 degree water feeding it. We would recommend it so far." Read more
"Instant hot water without burning a lot of LP. Easy installation and wiring." Read more
"...a few settings which helped a little, but it still is not holding steady temps and instead of errors it now like to reboot randomly whether in use..." Read more
"...back and forth from the hardware store, but alas, it works and water is HOT!!! Wife and I use it for showers and washing dishes...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the quality of the water heater. Some mention that it's well made, engineered, and reliable, while others say that it failed after a few months. The electronics failed and the first unit was defective.
"...We’ll find out more next month when we head out camping. It times out after 20 minutes but nobody needs to be in the shower that long when camping..." Read more
"...the investment if you are on the fence just know that it’s a high quality product that is well put together with quality parts and materials...." Read more
"...A few days ago the water heater stopped turning on...." Read more
"...action against Fogatti for continuing to sell an obviously seriously flawed product, and it may turn into a class action based the MANY negative..." Read more
Customers are mixed about the fit of the water heater. Some mention that it was a perfect fit, while others say that it didn't fit.
"...has the same dimensions of my old SW6DE model water heater, so it was a perfect fit...." Read more
"...The actual size of the metal case, 12.7”Wx12.7”Hx13.8”D, fit neatly into the space of the old unit, with only slight tweaking of the trailer-wall..." Read more
"...You might find it difficult to find one small enough for your application...." Read more
"...original 10 gal tank style heater, i.e. height, width & depth, and it weighs less...." Read more
Customers are mixed about the value of the water heater. Some mention that it's worth the money, while others say that it was not worth getting.
"...It’s definitely worth the investment if you are on the fence just know that it’s a high quality product that is well put together with quality parts..." Read more
"...the money, and for all of the claims it makes, this thing is a serious disappointment...." Read more
"...Once it's hot it stays hot and lasts forever. Totally worth the money spent. Now I don't have to choose if I wash my hair or shave today...." Read more
"...rate the install level, but understanding that this is not a drop in replacement unit, and that you are messing with 110v / 12v / propane plus..." Read more
Customers are mixed about the flow of the water heater. Some mention that it flows enough water to fill their washing machine with hot water, and is superior in quality. However, others say that it requires some minimum water flow to start, and that it only puts out 1 gallon a minute.
"...inside the heater froze causing a part to rupture and water was spraying like crazy inside the unit...." Read more
"...The quality is out standing. Water get 123deg with no issue...." Read more
"...The blower continues to run, but it acts like no combustion air is flowing...." Read more
"...Turning off the valve or shower head to save water doesn't work well either because as soon as it senses less flow, it switches off and begins cool..." Read more
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NOTE: Use a 100 psi pressure relief valve. NOT the standard 150 PSI valve you commonly find at Lowes or Home Depot. Fogatti sells the right one on Amazon.
12/2022 UPDATE: So, most of the US just went through the deep freeze. During this time, water inside the heater froze causing a part to rupture and water was spraying like crazy inside the unit. I called Fogatti and spoke to an actual person on US soil without a foreign accent. I'd add an extra star for this if i could. I explained the issue and texted them an image of the part that broke and they immediately shipped me out a replacement part! If I were to knock off a start for the part breaking, I'd have to add ot back just because of the customer service. So I still remain at 5 stars for this product. It's actually 6 stars because I spoke to an actual American.
1/2023 UPDATE: Shipping was slow. Very slow. But the part was very easy to replace. While i was waiting for the part to come in, it still made hot water even though it was leaking. Do I still give it a 5 star? Almost. I'd say a 4.9 star.
4/2023 Update:
Not sure if I can recommend this anymore. A few days ago the water heater stopped turning on. I connected a multimeter to the 12V batter and am ready 12V. Tested the wires that go from the battery to the unit' still getting 12V. Tested the wires coming from the unit, going into the remote - 0V. Spoke with customer service and they were very pleasant to work with. Again, it was personnright here in the US and not some foreign call center that you can't understand. So anyways, I spoke with the support tech and he asked me to check a few more things and he determined it may be the board that has gone bad. They're shipping me a new one, and while I do appreciate the good customer service, this thing isn't even a year old and it already needs new parts. I do have a 5 year warranty, so I'll he able to get parts for the next 5 years, but after that, if this thing still keeps breaking, I'm going to have to look for a different unit. If Fogatti's units were as superb as their customer service, this would be a 5/5 stars all day. Dropping to a 3 star. It would be a 1 star as far as reliability, but their customer service is so good it brings them up to a 3. If I get these new parts and I don't have any problems anymore, it'll go back to 5 stars if it stays problem free.
6/2023 Update:
Git the parts, installed and it wasnt working still. Spoke with Fogatti again. We used the multimeter to see the voltage going into the unit: 11.67V. Apparently this was way to low and it won't turn on. My led lights turned on, but not my water heater. I rewired a few things and got it plugged into my solar power station, sure enough, it's turned on with hot water. It wasn't them after all. I need to calll the technician again so I can confirm he was right. 5 stars again. What a rollercoaster lol
2/2024 UPDATE
Since I rewired the water heater to plug directly into the AC solar inverter, I have not had any issues with the unit turning on. Now, if you're using hot water, and suddenly it goes cold and the little black control box starts beeping, turn off the faucet/shower, wait a few seconds, and turn it back on. If it still keeps happening, turn off the faucet/shower, and turn the hot water 3/4 of the way, let it get hot, then turn on all the way. Not sure why I need to do that, but it seems to work.
But after a few months of use, it has been a mess. The two major problems:
Very inconsistent temperatures when running. I have it set to 114, it ramps all the way up to 120-122, then drops to 113, then rollercoasters from 113 down to 104 then back up again. I have a pressure regulator, good pressure, and a showerhead of 1.5gpm. (I am at an altitude of 5900 feet, but the manual and specs claim this unit will work at this elevation.)
It has now started to constantly throw errors, "E8" which is wind pressure switch fail. The blower continues to run, but it acts like no combustion air is flowing. If I turn the water off before it beeps three times and turn the water back on, it will reset but then throws the error AGAIN. Every shower now takes at LEAST two resets to complete.
On the installation side, the wires to the keypad were prestripped all the way at the outer covering, so I had to cut the end and restrip it correctly to avoid the wires shorting. (If your unit has a non-responding keypad, check that connection to make sure the wires aren't shorted. )
For the money, and for all of the claims it makes, this thing is a serious disappointment. I will be contacting Fogatti in the next few days to see what they say about it. I will update this review IF they actually fix these issues (I read a review where a new control board fixed it, hopefully that is all this one needs.) That said, one would think that Fogatti would have these issues sorted out. But the repeat issues with multiple units make me question the quality and reliability of this heater.
On the plus side, the installation was pretty easy, but be sure you have the metric to US standard water fittings, despite the manual claiming that the water threads are US standard, they are not.
Would I buy this again or recommend this to anyone? As of right now, no way. For the same money I could have gotten a standard tankless unit and adapted it to my use. (I am in a fixed location and won't be moving my RV around.)
UPDATE#4 : So, after over TWO HOURS on the phone, first with Fogatti, who was as usual NO HELP WHATSOEVER, then they passed the buck to Amazon, then Amazon (the first rep sent me to a different level of Amazon support, where they claimed that they couldn't "verify my account" with repeated attempts (even though the first level verification went through in seconds), they made excuses and hung up on me. I recalled and the second CS rep couldn't even get me transferred to the next level...so they are trying to avoid this mess. This second rep was very nice, and suggested I email Fogatti which will be my last attempt with them to get this resolved.
To be clear, I feel this is NOT Amazon's fault or responsibility, however Amazon does need to take some responsibility and hold Fogatti accountable for their continuing to sell defective products then ignoring the customers.
I will keep updating this until I get a heater that actually works, or my refund. Stay tuned.
UPDATE #3 Here we are in Sept 2023, and STILL NO RESPONSE from Fogatti. My unit is now have the "short circuit/flickering display" issue that others have reported, it is back to rollercoater temps and multiple random reboots. I have to leave it switched off from power when not in use. I cannot trust it to not short out completely and start a fire.
I will be seeking legal council soon and looking at possible action against Fogatti for continuing to sell an obviously seriously flawed product, and it may turn into a class action based the MANY negative reviews I have been reading here.
Fogatti Store, if you are reading this: This is your LAST CHANCE to make this right. I want a replacement unit that actually works as it is supposed to shipped to me immediately, or a FULL REFUND. I am tired of your "Customer support" ignoring the issues and failing to fix this mess.
UPDATE #2 Well, tech support, which was good, is now living up to its bad reputation. I called on June 1st, spoke to "Victor" who promised to speak to a tech and get either a replacement control board or whole unit sent out to me. I was supposed to get an email within a few days as a follow up. Well it is now June 20,2023 and no board, no replacement heater, and no email. I have downgraded this review to one star, and it would be zero star if possible. In the now extremely unlikely event Fogatti gets their act together and makes this right, I will revise my rating once again. But at this point I am about to demand they take it back, give me a full refund INCLUDING installation costs, and I will buy a regular tankless and make it work for my rv. For the amount of money I have spent on this thing, I could have bought a Takagi or other REPUTABLE brand of standard tankless. (I use hookups full time so it would work a lot better. )
UPDATE #1: After a few calls with Fogatti, (who BTW answered fairly quickly and were willing to help) they had me reprogram a few settings which helped a little, but it still is not holding steady temps and instead of errors it now like to reboot randomly whether in use or not. I will try calling and getting them to send out a replacement control board as a last-ditch effort to get this thing to work right. If that resolves the issue I will again update and possibly change the overall rating. If it fails to resolve the issue I will downgrade this to a one star rating.
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The water temperature coming out of the unit at the LCD screen has never exceeded 116 degrees Fahrenheit. Be forewarned, the unit can be set for 123, but may not ever get to that temperature. 116 is good enough for me, but maybe not for others.
Install was easy, and it’s a slick unit despite my issues above.